2023年11月4日土曜日

as long as you have an occupation, and you are in effect suffocating the Palestinians,...... they're going to rebel.


Civilian casualties in 563 days of Ukraine (population 35m) and 25 days of Gaza (population 2.5m)


 

Grim milestone: Civilian deaths in Gaza exceed those in Ukraine By John V. Whitbeck Nov 1, 2023 

According to the latest update by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights on civilian casualties during the war in Ukraine, as of September 11, 2023, the UN’s official confirmed figure for “those killed in territory controlled by the [Ukrainian] Government when casualties occurred” since February 24, 2022, was 7481. 

 As of October 29, the Palestinian Ministry of Health’s official confirmed figure for those killed by Israeli bombing and shelling of the territory of the Gaza Strip was more than 8000, including more than 3400 children, which, statistically, is one child killed every 10 minutes since October 7 — to the apparent delight, or at least satisfaction, of Messrs.

数字の違いはあるが、とにかく地域の総人口を勘案するとすごい殺害数だよ。


 Guardian-reading wokerati reposted とにかく歴史に残るジェノサイドだよ。

   

 Prof. John Mearsheimer: Is diplomacy possible in Hamas/Israeli war? 

ミアシャイマー先生

 To the Arab world and to much of the world, the Israeli military response to the horrific attack on October 7th is entirely out of proportion and it has caused the deaths of thousands and thousands of innocent civilians. Given the closeness of Israel and the United States as you've just articulated a professor does this cause some blame to be placed on the U.S. in the minds of those who condemn the excesses of the idea. Absolutely. In fact, you can find evidence of people around the world saying that the Americans are more responsible for what's going on than the Israelis

アメリカのほうがより責任がある、というひとも世界中にいる、と。

ーーーアメリカの支援がないと不可能だし、本気で駄目だ、と言わないからね。 


But Hamas is an idea, can the Israelis really kill an idea? No, I mean the fact is that as long as you have an occupation, and you are in effect suffocating the Palestinians, whether it's in the West Bank or it's in Gaza, they're going to rebel.

ハマス撲滅しても、パレスチナを占領して、その住民を窒息 させようとするのつづければ、反乱軍がでてくるのは必然


We're in a situation where there just is no solution.

にっちもさっちも行かない状態。 


But once you get out of Western Europe or the West more generally, what you discover is that there's a great deal of animosity towards the United States. And that we're hypocritical in the extreme. And there's much more sympathy for the Russian position and for the Chinese position. And that's why the Russians and the Chinese are making hay in what we call the global south at our expense

欧州以外では米国に対する反発も強く、アメリカ人は極端に偽善的。そのなると中露に対する同情が増え、グローバルサウスにおいて中露が有利になる。 



 it's important to understand that the Netanyahu government is deeply committed to preventing a two-state solution. And Hamas is very useful for that purpose because Hamas is not interested in the two-state solution either. And Hamas makes it clear that they would like to control all of what is now Israel. So, they're the perfect bookie man for purposes of undermining a two-state solution.

ハマスは2国家共存を考えておらず、ネタニエフはその点を捉えてハマスを利用してきた。 


Well, I believe that he wants the two state solution. I think he understands that that is one way out of this mess. But to get a two state solution, Joe Biden would have to put significant pressure on Israel. And he's incapable of doing that.
バイデンも2国家共存を臨んでいるものの、それをイスラエルに強く言えない状態。

 This Palestinian Christian Explains the Israeli Occupation

Jesus was one of our own...Jesus was born under the occupation Roman Empire

イエス・キリストはパレスチナのユダヤ人であり、ローマ帝国の占領下に生きていた。

kazukazu88 reposted

イギリス、ロンドンの駅で停戦デモ 

kazukazu88 reposted

エリザベスワレスもサンダースも一応a humanitarian pause 「人道的休戦」までは言っているようだけど・・・

民間人を殺したドイツもイギリスも間違っている。 今回はすでにイスラエル軍のほうがより多くの民間人を殺している。 「総人口200万人の鉄砲玉」と間違ってみなして、民間人虐殺やりたい放題。 まあ、「天皇陛下万歳」でも「アラ―は偉大なり」でもこれくらいの人たちが集まって叫んでいるのはたしかにわれわれ日本人にとって、不気味ではある。
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