"Liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality"

2022年5月16日月曜日
Libertarian socialism

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 Noam Chomsky - Creating a Libertarian Socialist Society 

  Government in the future - Noam Chomsky 

Let me summarize briefly again. I have mentioned so far two reference points for discussion of the state, classical liberalism and libertarian socialism. They are in agreement that the functions of the state are repressive and that state action must be limited. The libertarian socialist goes on to insist that the state power must be eliminated in favor of the democratic organization of the industrial society with direct popular control over all institutions by those who participate in as well as those who are directly affected by the workings of these institutions. So one might imagine a system of workers’ councils, consumer councils, commune assemblies, regional federations, and so on, with the kind of representation that is direct and revocable, in the sense that representatives are directly answerable to and return directly to the well-defined and integrated social group for which they speak in some higher order organization, something obviously very different than our system of representation

Chomsky on Anarchism by Noam Chomsky p227

A couple of quick things. J know from reading you that you are very much impressed by Pannekoek, and Corter, the left communist strand. I take it you don't see a danger of things like workers' councils or the work of Pannekoek or Gorter leading into another form of totalitarianism. Do you think that breaks from that. . .

No, I think there is plenty of danger, but there is also the danger that participatory economics could lead to totalitarianism. Every one of us has been in movement meetings, and we all know the dynamics. No matter what you are working on, purring up a traffic light on the corner or organizing resistance against the Vietnam war, or whatever it may be. . .there is a meeting of people and we differ in our levels of tolerance for boring activities. Some people just drop off really fast-like me for example, J just can't tolerate much of it. Other people really commit to, basically, controlling things and there is a natural dynamic in which in the most free, cooperative, libertarian structures can turn into an authoritarian one just by virtue of who is going to stick around, take enough control and finally make the decisions until others decide to go do something else. Those are always dangers.

自由と平等を志向するんだけど、資本主義だろうが共産主義だろうが、国家は国民を弾圧し、権力は濫用され腐敗するから、ボスのいない直接民主的な団体をつくってやっていこう、みたいな感じかなあ。